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Important information concerning Joseph Perrin as the "possible" father of John Perrin. There seems to be a much stronger possibility that Henry was John's father. See the research of Carol Randall & Mary Bailey

NOTE: I am updating this website and now is an excellent time to send me corrections or additions!

"Joseph PERRIN was born about 1700 in New Kent County, Virginia. He was living in 1743 in Hanover County, Virginia. He served as a witness to a sale on 5 May 1746 in Lunenberg County, Virginia. He served as an appraiser to the estate of John Young in June 1748 in Lunenberg County, Virginia. He on the "list of tithables" in 1749 in Lunenberg County, Virginia. He served as a witness to the will of Robert Jones on 27 September 1749 in Lunenberg County, Virginia. He served as surveryor of Randolph's Road on 5 May 1752 in Lunenberg County, Virginia. He was appointed a caretaker to an orphan, Samuel Wharton in March 1760 in Lunenberg County, Virginia. He died on 22 October 1772 in the Twitty's Creek area, Charlotte County, Virginia. He owned various items totalling 401 pounds at probate on 2 May 1774 in Charlotte County, Virginia. He was appointed an as a processioner of the Twittys Path precinct in Lunenberg County, Virginia.

Parents:
Samuel PERRIN.


Spouse: Rebecca. Joseph PERRIN and Rebecca were married about 1726 in (probably) Saint Paul's Parish, Hanover County, Virginia.  Children were: William PERRIN, Samuel PERRIN, Elizabeth PERRIN, Sarah PERRIN, Nancy (Anne) PERRIN, Leanah PERRIN, Josephus PERRIN, George PERRIN, John PERRIN Sr. "  
 
Above info was located here:  http://sneakers.pair.com/roots/b127.htm#P312

Sallie Ann Perrin Pool ca. 1895
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d/o Sallie D. Hardin & Wm H. Perrin

Lee & Roy Johnson ca 1900
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sons of Ada Pool & WH Johnson

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 The above picture was taken in Breckenridge Co., KY. The baby on the lap is Sallie Bell, my great-grandmother. She would grow up to marry Grover Cleveland Joplin. The boy next to *Sallie Ann Perrin Pool is Roy Johnson, eldest son of Ada Pool & WH Johnson.
 
When Ibbie Pool Bell died, Robert married Artemissa Bandy (Missy) who did not want Sallie around. Sallie was raised by her grandmother for awhile and then by her Aunt Ada.
 
*Sallie Ann Perrin was the d/o  Sallie D. Hardin & Wm.H. Perrin (the gentleman with the hat to the upper right). Sallie D. Hardin was the d/o Henry Hardin & Rachel Walker, m. 1796. Henry Hardin was the s/o William "Indian Bill" Harin & Winifred Holtzclaw. (see Desc. Of Henry Holtzclaw)

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From: Biographical and Historical Memoirs of Mississippi, Embracing an Authentic and Comprehensive Account of the Chief Events in the History of the State and a Record of the Lives of Many of the Most Worthy and Illustrious Families and Individuals. Vol. 1. Chicago: Goodspeed Publishing Company, 1891.  pp. 535-536

"Dr. T. T. Orendorff, a physician and surgeon of Rolling Fork, Miss., was born in Breckinridge county, Ky., on the 11th of April, 1847, and is a son of M. and Mary (Cain) Orendorff, natives of  Virginia, born in 1822 and 1826, respectively.  Both families removed to Kentucky in an early day, where the young couple was married in 1840, in Breckinridge county, and where Mr.Orendorff died in 1853; his wife still survives him.  She is a daughter of Thomas and Ona (Meador) Cain, natives of Virginia, and long since dead; the former was a son of Micajah and Elizabeth (Wilkerson) Cain, and the latter a daughter of Benjamin and Mary H. (Morris) Meador.  The Orendorffs were originally from the lower Palatinate, Germany, and were descended from noble ancestry.  They were driven from their native country of the Rhine nearly two centuries ago by Louis XIV on account of their religious opinions.  They fled to England and eventually made their way to America, the future land of the free and home of the brave, prior to the Revolutionary war.  Members of the family settled in Maryland, Virginia and Pennsylvania, and the tradition goes that many of the male members became active soldiers in the war for independence .  From these pioneers, representatives have penetrated half the states of the Union, as a family reunion, held at Blooming, Ill., in October, 1886, found representatives present from seventeen states and territories. This fraternal gathering developed many family traits, characteristics and peculiarities, one of which is worthy of note: in all this prolific family not a member of it has ever been known to have been tried in court for a criminal offense.  Dr. Orendorff, the subject of this sketch, is the fourth in a family of seven children, five sons and two daughters, all of whom, except the youngest son, Thomas Jesse, are living.  He was brought up on a farm and received the benefits of the common schools, finishing off a good English education at the Brandenburg (Kentucky) academy.  After leaving school he was for some time employed in a country store, during which time his evenings and leisure hours were occupied in reading medicine.  Thus, by energy and perseverance, he was qualified to enter the Kentucky school of medicine at Louisville, in the fall of 1868, attending his first course of lectures.  He then spent eighteen months in one of the city hospitals, after which, in 1871, he graduated from the Kentucky school of medicine.  Immediately after being graduated he went to Mississippi and located in the Deer Creek valley, Sharkey county, where he has practiced his profession ever since and where, by that courtesy and politeness which are his strongest characteristics, and a close attention to his patrons, he has won flattering success.  In 1880 he made a trip to Europe and spent the year in visiting the hospitals of Edinburgh, London, Paris, Berlin, etc., and in making a tour of most of the countries of the old world.  In 1882, in addition to his medical practice he engaged in cotton planting, and is now the owner of some two thousand acres of fine land in the Deer Creek valley, in Sharkey county, on the cultivated portion which he raises about eight hundred bales of cotton annually.  He is also the owner of some valuable property in Memphis, Florence, Ala., and in El Paso, Tex.  All of his possessions have been won by his own individual efforts and persevering industry.  Although he has often been urged to run for office, he has invariably refused, party politics having no charms for him.  Dr. Orendorff's brothers and sisters are as follows: Prof. Henry, who is a practicing physician, holds a chair in the Kentucky school of medicine, from which he graduated in 1871, and in which he has been a professor for twelve years; Capt. C. C. is connected with the Southern Palace Car company in Memphis, Tenn.; Edmonia B. was educated at Bethlehem convent in Kentucky, and is a cultured and accomplished lady.  She is the wife of Col. W. H. Perrin, connected with the Louisville Courier-Journal and one of the ablest writers; William A. is a cotton planter in Sharkey county, s was Thomas J. until his death, which occurred in March, 1891; Lena, who married the late Dr. Edward S. Crosier, of New Albany, Ind., an accomplished scholar, scientist and physician, and for seventeen years in charge of the surveyor's office in the United States customhouse at Louisville, Ky., and also for years a professor in the Louisville Medical college.  Dr. Orendorff is one of the most progressive and public spirited men in Sharkey county, and makes an intelligent and judicious use of his means and ability.  His knowledge of matters in general is broad and comprehensive, and, being a close observer, his extensive travel in this country and Europe has been of material benefit to him.  He is a member of the Mississippi State Medical association, and of the fraternity of A. F. & A. M., of the Knights of honor and of the American Legion of Honor."

PERRINS of WISE CO. TX

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Surnames: Baber, Bell, Hardin, Johnson, Joplin, Orendorf, Pool/P'Pool, West and others

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History of Kentucky, W.H. Perrin-1885 (7pages) abt. 2.5MB

 A Special Note on Sallie D. Hardin

Sallie D. Hardin was the d/o Henry Hardin & Rachel Walker, m. 1796. Henry Hardin was the s/o William "Indian Bill" Hardin & Winifred Holtzclaw 
(see Desc. Of Henry Holtzclaw)


No one knows for sure what the "D." in her name stands for however, since people are usually named for their ancestors, I am wondering if her middle name was "DU SAUCHEY" or "DuSauchey", perhaps being named after her 3rd greatgrandmother.

Father: HENRY HARDIN 
Grandfather: WILLIAM (INDIAN BILL)HARDIN 
Great-grandfather: MAJOR JOHN HARDIN
Great-great-grandfather: MARK HARDIN 
Great-great-great-grandparents:
MARTIN HARDIN & MADELEINE DU SAUCHEY.

Please see this link for more info:

Wm Henry Perrin, The Elder 
Husband to Letitia West
Revolutionary War Soldier
Siege of Yorktown

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Wm Henry Perrin, The Younger
Husband to Edmonia Orendoff
A copy of their 1868 Marriage Bond
& handwritten consent follows
the lineage below.
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Author of many historical books

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Edmonia B. Orendoff, d/o of
Mexico & Mary A.E. Cain Orendoff.
See "History of Kentucky", by W.H. Perrin,1886
for a biographical sketch on Edmonia's family.
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She & children settled in Collin Co., TX
Greenville Morning Herald Tuesday April 6, 1915
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Her son T.O. Perrin spent many years in Greenville Texas as pastor of the First Presbyterian Church

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Robert Lee Bell, husband of Ibbie K. Pool
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Parent of Sallie A. (Bell) Joplin

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The 2 cemetery photos are of
Rachel B. Perrin Pool's  headstone-
Granger City Cemetery
Williamson Co., TX
Taken by Don Haynes ~ May 2, 2006.
He was kind enough to send them to me.
He found her headstone had fallen over so
he set it back upright and cleaned it!
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The Granger City Cemetery is located 1 mile east of Highway 95 on County Road 971. 
 
http://three-legged-willie.org/cemetery/grngcty4.htm

1st page of the Haynes Family Bible
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Sent by Don Haynes

Stephen Frank & Annie Lee Poole Haynes ca. 1900-10
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 John Perrin,Sr  b:1734 Lunenberg Co., VA.d: Bef 1820 Garrard Co., KY He served in the military in February 1780 in First Virginia Regiment, John McNeal's Company.
..  +Mary Baber      
. 2   William Perrin, Sr  b: 1758 in Bedford Co,VA d: 1799 Breckenridge Co., KY  REV. WAR
.....  +Letitia West  m: 1781  d: July 27, 1826 Madison Co.,  KY
......3   James
......3   Martha
......3   Nancy
......3   John W.
......3   Jane
......3   Mary b: 1789 in Virginia, d: 26 Aug 1873 m: 1812 in Breckenridge, KY to Samuel Adkisson, b:1786 in Bedford, Co. VA,, d: 4 May 1839
......3   Charles
..... 3   
William Perrin, Jr.  b: January 08, 1797 in Bedford Co., VA  d: June 20, 1881 in Hardinsburg, KY
.........  +
Sallie D. Hardin  m: April 10, 1828  b: June 25, 1797 in KY d: July 18, 1863 in Hardinsburg, KY
......... 4   Letitia W. Perrin  b: January 25, 1829 
.............  +John  P' Pool  m: March 03, 1865  b: September 13, 1808 
......... 4   Rachel B. Perrin  b: June 30, 1832, d: Apr. 30, 1901 (buried Granger City Cemetery, Williamson Co., TX)
.............  +Thomas B. Poole b: Jul. 26, 1827 TN  d: Jul. 24, 1867 (Poole Cem.Breckinridge Co., KY) m: October 02, 1858
.................5   Annie Lee Poole b: July 20, 1863 Garfield, KY, d: April 4, 1926 TX
......................+ Stephen Frank Haynes b: Sept. 1, 1851 Garfield, KY d: July 26, 1935, TX m: March 23, 1884, Garfield KY
.................5   Helen S Poole Black
......................+ John D. Black 
......... 4   William Henry Perrin b: March 24, 1834 d: September 14, 1891 (Wrote "The History of Kentucky")
.............  +Edmonia B. Orendorff   m: February 27, 1868 Louisville, Jefferson Co., KY;   b: August 15, 1845 at Webster, KY d: April 14, 1915 in Collin Co., TX. D/o Mexico Orendorf & Mary A.E. Cain.
............. 5   William Guy Perrin  b: January 24, 1870 d: September 06, 1897
............. 5   Mary De  Perrin   b: June 05, 1872 
.................  +  Dr. Thomas Stone Clyce m: October 05, 1892     
................ 6   Wallace Perrin Clyce  b: April 24, 1894 
....................  +Mary Lillian Ellis m: March 24, 1920     
.................... 7   Thomas Ellis Clyce  b: December 29, 1920 
.................... 7   Wallace Perrin Clyce, Jr   b: September 24, 1924 
................ 6   Dorothy May Clyce   b: July 01, 1896 
....................  +Allen Gregory Smith  m: August 30, 1917     
................ 6   Edmonia Elizabeth Clyce  b: October 12, 1904 d: December 30, 1928
............. 5   Rev. Taylor Orendorf Perrin  b: August 24, 1880, Louisville, KY , d:  Nov 28, 1958, Sulphur Springs, Hopkins Co., Tex.  He was pastor of First Presbyterian Church of Greenville, Hunt Co., Tex for 25 years  (1914 to 1920 & 1930 to 1948). He served as a chaplain overseas during WWI.
.................  +Marjorie Starkweather, b: Feb 7, 1889, Coleman, Tex, d: Mar 31, 1954, Sulphur Springs, Hopkins Co., Tex  m: May 29, 1913  Coleman, Coleman Co.,Tex  
................ 6   Martha Edmonia Perrin    b: October 1, 1920 Dallas, Tex
.......................+Richard Larkin Dexter b:October 2, 1919, m: Dec, 12, 1945
................ 6   Taylor Orendorf Perrin, Jr.   b: September 24, 1923 
................ 6   Jane Perrin   b: December 21, 1927 
............. 5   
Ben Hardin Perrin  b: August 24, 1880 
.................  +Sarah Cockrill Morgan  m: October 19, 1909     
................ 6   Irby Morgan Perrin   b: July 10, 1910 
................ 6   Edmonia Orendorf Perrin   b: January 02, 1912 
................ 6   Mary Elizabeth Perrin   b: July 02, 1917 
............. 5   Edmonia Orendorf Perrin   b: July 10, 1884 d: August 10, 1916
.................  +Gary Luther Smith m: October 05, 1911     
................ 6   Perrin Gary Smith    b: September 03, 1912 
................ 6   Clyce Gary Smith    b: December 01, 1913 
................ 6   Edmonia Gary Smith    b: November 23, 1915 
......... 4   
Sallie Ann Perrin    b: November 15, 1835 in Breckinridge Co., KY  d: March 27, 1913 in Custen, Breckinridge Co., KY
.............  +
John Jones Pool  m: September 21, 1865  Fact 1: January 31, 1865 enrolled 3rd Reg. KY Calvalry Vol./Hosp. Steward   Fact 2:  July 18, 1865 discharged/Cincinnati,Ohio/injuries   b: 1833 in Clarksburg, TN  d: March 15, 1869 in Breckinridge Co., KY
............. 5   Ibbie Kay Pool   b: March 17, 1868 in Breckinridge Co., KY d: June 03, 1890 in Breckinridge Co., KY
.................  +Robert Lee Bell  m: November 12, 1885    b: August 05, 1864 in Garfield, Breckinridge Co., KY d: June 23, 1937 in Wylie, Collin Co., TX
................ 6   Sallie Bell   Fact 1: file # of birth cert.: 44-117, Breckenridge Co., KY    b: August 29, 1888 in Garfield, Breckinridge Co., KY d: May 30, 1963 in Allen, Collin Co., Tx
....................  +Grover Cleveland Joplin m: December 18, 1907  Fact 1: file # of birth cert.: 44-72, Breckenridge Co., KY    b: April 12, 1885 in Lebanon, Wilson Co., TN d: October 31, 1960 in Allen, Collin Co., Tx
.................... 7   Sallie Grovene Joplin     b: September 19, 1908 
.................... 7   Emily Elizabeth Joplin     b: October 13, 1910 in Plano, Collin Co., TX d: August 19, 1992 in Seymour, Baylor Co., TX
........................  +Percy Felder Ratliff  m: March 12, 1927    b: December 05, 1908 in Glen Rose, Somervell Co.,  TX d: August 09, 1988 in Quanah, Hardeman Co., TX
....................  *2nd Husband of Emily Elizabeth Joplin:      
........................  +
Ivy Webster Mitchell  m: 1935  (no children)
.......................Final Husband of Emily Elizabeth Joplin:
...........................+ William "Bill" Pryor (no children)
.................... 7   Robert Henderson "Lardy" Joplin   b: December 21, 1911 
.................... 7   Malcolm Eudora Joplin   b: October 22, 1913
..........................+ Leon Oxford 
.................... 7   William Burl Joplin   b: July 08, 1915 
.................... 7   Ibbie Bell Joplin  b: October 02, 1916
..........................+  Luke Bond 
.................... 7   Floyd Eugene Joplin   b: March 10, 1918 
.................... 7   George Franklin Joplin   b: January 05, 1920
..........................+ Louise Edna Henderson
.............................8  George David Joplin b: Jan 23, 1948
.............................8  Larry Norman Joplin b: Mar 25, 1950
.................................+ Amanda Colley m: Jun 1, 1979
.................... 7   Mary Frances Joplin   b: August 14, 1921
..........................+ 1) Clyde Philpot
.............................8  Tim Philpot
.............................8  Bobby Philpot
..........................+ 2) Dudley Callan (He adopted Tim & Bobby
.................... 7   Paul Glenn Joplin   b: February 07, 1923
..........................+  1) Diane Roberts
..........................+  2) Shirley Jane Richardson
.................... 7   Howard Leroy Joplin  b: May 29, 1925 , d: 1928 buried at Matador, TX  (Lardy accidently ran over him with the truck)
............. 5   Ada Pool      
.................  +W.H. Johnson 
......................6  Roy Johnson
......................6  Lee Johnson     
......... 4   Moses H. Perrin  b: September 07, 1838 


Source: Wm. H. Perrin Bible Records, and  "The History of Kentucky" by Wm. H. Perrin, Birth, Death and Marriage records. Also, letters from my great-grandmother to my mother.

1868 Marriage Bond ~ Perrin & Orendoff ~ front
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1868 Marriage Bond ~ Perrin & Orendoff ~ back
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Consent to Marry, Feb 24, 1868~by bride's mother
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 "William Perrin (1760-1799) was a soldier from Bedford County, Virginia at the Seige of Yorktown, serving as a Private in rank.
    Lineage Book 45, page #374
    National Numbers 8410 and 44932, and 161755 Vol. 16162, p. 230
    Page #1081 History of Kentucky published in 1886 by F.A. Battey Publishing
    Company of Louisville & Chicago"  From DAR application # 437890. Oct-1955

William & Sarah Bell, 1850 Census, Breckinridge Co., KY, page 114A, line 33  (Also see same for David Weatherford & Rhoda Lyons)

Every one who has ever researched ancestors in Kentucky has read Perrin's book . He issued several editions of "The History of Kentucky". He signed a copy and gave it to his sister, Sallie Ann Perrin Pool. My mother has the old book although is has become so fragile that we dare not look through it.
My understanding is that he was working on a "History of____" when he became ill and died. I think the state was Louisiana but I am not sure.

The Obit for Edmonia was sent by Mary Jackson < flawsjackson@yahoo.com >. Mary's husband is the gggrandson of James Madison Perrin of Franklin County Texas. She is researching all the Perrins that settled Northeast Texas so if you have any info or questions, please contact Mary.

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